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A '''[[Help:Redirect#Soft redirects|soft redirect]]''' is a replacement for the usual [[BattleTechWiki:redirect|"hard" redirect]] and is used where the destination is another wiki or website. They may also be used for local targets in some cases (e.g. [[BTW:AN/K]]). Soft redirects differ in that they leave the reader on the redirect page, requiring them to click through to the redirected link as opposed to automatically taking them there.  
A '''[[Help:Redirect#Soft redirects|soft redirect]]''' is a replacement for the usual [[BattleIntelligence:redirect|"hard" redirect]] and is used where the destination is another wiki or website. They may also be used for local targets in some cases (e.g. [[BTW:AN/K]]). Soft redirects differ in that they leave the reader on the redirect page, requiring them to click through to the redirected link as opposed to automatically taking them there.  


Unlike normal redirects, a soft redirect does not use special code or functionality of the wiki software. All they consist of is a notification to users, showing the destination to another site to obtain the information they were seeking.
Unlike normal redirects, a soft redirect does not use special code or functionality of the wiki software. All they consist of is a notification to users, showing the destination to another site to obtain the information they were seeking.


The technique is particularly likely to be used when redirecting users across. Normal [[Help:redirect|redirect]]s would be undesirable in these circumstances, and hard [[BattleTechWiki:Interwiki|interwiki]] redirects are disabled per these reasons that they could not be easily edited without hand-crafting the correct URL, since clicking on a link to the redirect page would take you straight to the redirect's target and there would be no "Redirected from [[foo]]" message to click, so it would be difficult to return to the redirect page itself; there would also be infinite-loop security considerations.
The technique is particularly likely to be used when redirecting users across. Normal [[Help:redirect|redirect]]s would be undesirable in these circumstances, and hard [[BattleIntelligence:Interwiki|interwiki]] redirects are disabled per these reasons that they could not be easily edited without hand-crafting the correct URL, since clicking on a link to the redirect page would take you straight to the redirect's target and there would be no "Redirected from [[foo]]" message to click, so it would be difficult to return to the redirect page itself; there would also be infinite-loop security considerations.


Another situation where soft redirects are used is when the intended target is a special page, and the system automatically "softens" attempted hard redirects to special pages. For example, [[BattleTechWiki:List of tags]] redirects to [[Special:Tags]].
Another situation where soft redirects are used is when the intended target is a special page, and the system automatically "softens" attempted hard redirects to special pages. For example, [[BattleIntelligence:List of tags]] redirects to [[Special:Tags]].


Soft redirects are intended mostly for external use, where hard redirects will not function. For internal use in general, hard redirects should be used instead.
Soft redirects are intended mostly for external use, where hard redirects will not function. For internal use in general, hard redirects should be used instead.


== Category soft redirects ==
== Category soft redirects ==
In English BattleTechWiki, categories with the {{tl|Category redirect}} template are also called "soft redirects", due to their similarity to interwiki soft redirects.
In English BattleIntelligence, categories with the {{tl|Category redirect}} template are also called "soft redirects", due to their similarity to interwiki soft redirects.


Do not put [[BattleTechWiki:Categorizing redirects|redirect categorization templates]] on soft redirects ({{tl|R category with possibilities}} is an exception).
Do not put [[BattleIntelligence:Categorizing redirects|redirect categorization templates]] on soft redirects ({{tl|R category with possibilities}} is an exception).


== Templates ==
== Templates ==
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== Categories to add for cross-namespace soft redirects ==
== Categories to add for cross-namespace soft redirects ==
Soft redirects to targets outside BattleTechWiki (e.g. to meta.wikimedia.org) do not require any categories to be added manually.
Soft redirects to targets outside BattleIntelligence (e.g. to meta.wikimedia.org) do not require any categories to be added manually.


For soft redirects that go from BattleTechWiki's ''mainspace'' to targets outside BattleTechWiki or to targets in any other BattleTechWiki namespace, add [[:Category:Unprintworthy redirects]] to mark them unsuitable for any printable version of BattleTechWiki.
For soft redirects that go from BattleIntelligence's ''mainspace'' to targets outside BattleIntelligence or to targets in any other BattleIntelligence namespace, add [[:Category:Unprintworthy redirects]] to mark them unsuitable for any printable version of BattleIntelligence.


For any soft redirect that goes from one BattleTechWiki namespace to another BattleTechWiki namespace, add the relevant category placing it within the appropriate sub-category of [[:Category:Cross-namespace redirects]], i.e. describing it by the target namespace:
For any soft redirect that goes from one BattleIntelligence namespace to another BattleIntelligence namespace, add the relevant category placing it within the appropriate sub-category of [[:Category:Cross-namespace redirects]], i.e. describing it by the target namespace:
*[[:Category:Redirects to user namespace]], for a soft redirect to a user space page (but not to a user talk page).  Note: by its name, template {{tl|R to user namespace}} would seem appropriate to use, and indeed that template would apply the "Redirects to user namespace" category, but that template's instructions indicate it should not be used for soft redirects (at least in part because it would display inappropriate/confusing information for editors/readers following the soft redirect), so manually apply the category, instead.
*[[:Category:Redirects to user namespace]], for a soft redirect to a user space page (but not to a user talk page).  Note: by its name, template {{tl|R to user namespace}} would seem appropriate to use, and indeed that template would apply the "Redirects to user namespace" category, but that template's instructions indicate it should not be used for soft redirects (at least in part because it would display inappropriate/confusing information for editors/readers following the soft redirect), so manually apply the category, instead.
*[[:Category:Redirects to talk pages]], for a soft redirect to any talk page, whether the talk page is that of a user, or of a category, or of a template, or of a mainspace article, etc.  Note: Likewise, {{tl|R to talk page}} would seem appropriate, but that template is also not be used on soft redirects.
*[[:Category:Redirects to talk pages]], for a soft redirect to any talk page, whether the talk page is that of a user, or of a category, or of a template, or of a mainspace article, etc.  Note: Likewise, {{tl|R to talk page}} would seem appropriate, but that template is also not be used on soft redirects.
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== Deletion ==
== Deletion ==
For purposes of administration, particularly deletion, soft redirects are subject to the same administration processes as regular redirects, and should not be handled by processes that are intended for articles. For deletion this means that soft redirects are subject to speedy deletion criteria, and are not subject to speedy deletion criteria. For more deliberative deletion, soft redirects should be handled through [[BattleTechWiki:Masthead|BTW staff]], and are not subject to [[BattleTechWiki:Proposed deletion]].
For purposes of administration, particularly deletion, soft redirects are subject to the same administration processes as regular redirects, and should not be handled by processes that are intended for articles. For deletion this means that soft redirects are subject to speedy deletion criteria, and are not subject to speedy deletion criteria. For more deliberative deletion, soft redirects should be handled through [[BattleIntelligence:Masthead|BTW staff]], and are not subject to [[BattleIntelligence:Proposed deletion]].


==See also==
==See also==
* [[Help:Interwiki linking]] and [[Special:Interwiki]] pages that show how to link to another wiki and all possible Interwiki links on this wiki list of possible redirect targets
* [[Help:Interwiki linking]] and [[Special:Interwiki]] pages that show how to link to another wiki and all possible Interwiki links on this wiki list of possible redirect targets
* [[m:Soft redirect]] the equivalent metawiki page about soft redirects
* [[m:Soft redirect]] the equivalent metawiki page about soft redirects
* [[BattleTechWiki:Redirect]] for hard redirects
* [[BattleIntelligence:Redirect]] for hard redirects
* {{tl|Redirect with possibilities}}
* {{tl|Redirect with possibilities}}
* [[BattleTechWiki:Deletion policy#Other projects]], where a soft redirect is considered an alternative to deletion
* [[BattleIntelligence:Deletion policy#Other projects]], where a soft redirect is considered an alternative to deletion
* [[m:Help:Transwiki]], for instructions for using the Transwiki: namespace when moving entries between BattleTechWiki and Wiktionary
* [[m:Help:Transwiki]], for instructions for using the Transwiki: namespace when moving entries between BattleIntelligence and Wiktionary


[[Category:Redirects]]
[[Category:Redirects]]

Latest revision as of 22:11, 30 April 2025

A soft redirect is a replacement for the usual "hard" redirect and is used where the destination is another wiki or website. They may also be used for local targets in some cases (e.g. BTW:AN/K). Soft redirects differ in that they leave the reader on the redirect page, requiring them to click through to the redirected link as opposed to automatically taking them there.

Unlike normal redirects, a soft redirect does not use special code or functionality of the wiki software. All they consist of is a notification to users, showing the destination to another site to obtain the information they were seeking.

The technique is particularly likely to be used when redirecting users across. Normal redirects would be undesirable in these circumstances, and hard interwiki redirects are disabled per these reasons that they could not be easily edited without hand-crafting the correct URL, since clicking on a link to the redirect page would take you straight to the redirect's target and there would be no "Redirected from foo" message to click, so it would be difficult to return to the redirect page itself; there would also be infinite-loop security considerations.

Another situation where soft redirects are used is when the intended target is a special page, and the system automatically "softens" attempted hard redirects to special pages. For example, BattleIntelligence:List of tags redirects to Special:Tags.

Soft redirects are intended mostly for external use, where hard redirects will not function. For internal use in general, hard redirects should be used instead.

Category soft redirects

In English BattleIntelligence, categories with the {{Category redirect}} template are also called "soft redirects", due to their similarity to interwiki soft redirects.

Do not put redirect categorization templates on soft redirects ({{R category with possibilities}} is an exception).

Templates

The following templates are used to create a soft redirect link:

Categories to add for cross-namespace soft redirects

Soft redirects to targets outside BattleIntelligence (e.g. to meta.wikimedia.org) do not require any categories to be added manually.

For soft redirects that go from BattleIntelligence's mainspace to targets outside BattleIntelligence or to targets in any other BattleIntelligence namespace, add Category:Unprintworthy redirects to mark them unsuitable for any printable version of BattleIntelligence.

For any soft redirect that goes from one BattleIntelligence namespace to another BattleIntelligence namespace, add the relevant category placing it within the appropriate sub-category of Category:Cross-namespace redirects, i.e. describing it by the target namespace:

Deletion

For purposes of administration, particularly deletion, soft redirects are subject to the same administration processes as regular redirects, and should not be handled by processes that are intended for articles. For deletion this means that soft redirects are subject to speedy deletion criteria, and are not subject to speedy deletion criteria. For more deliberative deletion, soft redirects should be handled through BTW staff, and are not subject to BattleIntelligence:Proposed deletion.

See also