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		<title>imported&gt;Dmon at 01:27, 20 October 2023</title>
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;==September 2009==&lt;br /&gt;
:Should it be mentioned that in various magical traditions, a Slyph is an Air Elemental, a Gnome is an Earth Elemental, an Undine is a Water Elemental, and a Salamander is a Fire Elemental?  --[[User:PerkinsC|Cameron]] 16:32, 10 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::This article is about the &amp;quot;original&amp;quot; Toad battlesuit. That information can be noted in the article for each of those battlesuits. I&amp;#039;m pretty sure that I did it for at least one. --[[User:Scaletail|Scaletail]] 01:42, 11 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Is it correct in stating that one of the modular weapons for the Elemental is a [[Small Laser|standard Small Laser]]? Since the Elemental is a Clan battle armor, wouldn&amp;#039;t it use an [[ER Small Laser]] instead? Or is it that battle armor is an exception to the Clans general lack of standard-class energy weapony? {{unsigned|DragonoftheRust|on 20 October 2009}}&lt;br /&gt;
::Yes, it is a standard small laser. --[[User:Scaletail|Scaletail]] 23:37, 21 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Newest source with stats, [[Technical Readout: 3058 Upgrade]], reconfirms its a standard. [[User:Cyc|Cyc]] 00:01, 22 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::weapon is actually something similar to IIRC Infantry scale (Clan) Support Laser ramped up to do the damage of an IS Small Laser...looks like they will do more for RPG stats in AToW--[[User:PerkinsC|Cameron]] 01:47, 22 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Elemental II==&lt;br /&gt;
I believe the Elemental II suit has enough info to warrant a separate page for itself.  Thoughts? [[User:LittleWolf|LittleWolf]] ([[User talk:LittleWolf|talk]]) 12:19, 7 April 2018 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:It&amp;#039;s a different enough design that I want to agree. However, it is also a failed/cancelled prototype that appears unlikely to be revisited future products. As a standalone design, that is enough to start a new page, but as a (very) different variant, I don&amp;#039;t think it is.--[[User:Cache|Cache]] ([[User talk:Cache|talk]]) 12:30, 7 April 2018 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Machine gun or Heavy Machine gun==&lt;br /&gt;
I am currently datamining the &amp;#039;&amp;#039;[[Shadows of War]]&amp;#039;&amp;#039; novel and have come across a really nice little nugget of info but it is not 100% clear what weapon it is. so I am going to just leave a note here for now in hopes that we can use it at a future date.&lt;br /&gt;
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A character is noted to of been killed by &amp;quot;Three Thirteen-millimeter slugs from the Elementals anti-Mech machine gun&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=SoWch23&amp;gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Shadows of War&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, Ch. 23&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, I am leaning towards the weapon being a [[Heavy Machine Gun]] as the time scale and faction both fit and it would better justify the &amp;quot;anti-Mech&amp;quot; tag than a normal [[Machine Gun]].--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 06:37, 12 November 2019 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Vehicle and BattleMech machine guns include 12.5mm and 20mm models. I would consider 13mm to be within the standard machine gun range.--[[User:Cache|Cache]] ([[User talk:Cache|talk]]) 16:38, 12 November 2019 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Very true, I do not think we have any data for Heavy Machine Guns at all.--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 16:42, 12 November 2019 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::And just over a year later we get 12mm from one of the stories in [[Shrapnel Issue 2]]. New trumps old.--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 18:33, 16 November 2020 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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