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		<title>imported&gt;Frabby at 16:57, 13 September 2024</title>
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For all we know, this was not a battle but a one-sided massacre of civilians. So maybe wrong category/infobox. Also, the [[Gabriel Quinn]] writeup on p. 132 of the Liao housebook indicates this actually happened in 3013 unless you assume that Ridzik had two distinct religious group of civilians massacred on Truth by a company of &amp;#039;Mechs each in 3013 and 3020 respectively. The 3020 date is given only once; the 3013 date is backed up in the text by a subsequent 3015 event (prison release) and the notions that it was &amp;quot;twelve years ago&amp;quot;, and a decade since she was released (in a sourcebook dated 3025). [[User:Frabby|Frabby]] ([[User talk:Frabby|talk]]) 04:01, 13 September 2024 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Absolutely not a battle but should stay titled as such, because &amp;#039;&amp;#039;battle is of xxxx (xxxx)&amp;#039;&amp;#039; is purely a cataloging system within the military operations categories (and this is a military operation, and I purposefully stay away from using the atrocities category). Actual name of the event should go in the infobox and article text, as but lots of &amp;#039;&amp;#039;battles&amp;#039;&amp;#039; have no official name, or even several different names. As for the date, looking back, the initial creation was based on House Liao p 128 only, and another editor later turned the citation into a bizarre double one. If further information has come to light, move it, create a redirect and add a note as usual {{ emoticon | ;) }} --[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 05:05, 13 September 2024 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::No further information. There is essentially only one source, the Liao housebook, but it mentions this event in (apparently) three different locations: on p. 63 as an undated massacre of Pan-Humanists on Truth &amp;quot;in the past two decades&amp;quot;, on p. 128 in the Pavel Ridzik writeup as the Truth massacre of Pan-Humanists (dated 3020 here), and on p. 128 in the Gabriel Quinn profile something is mentioned that fits all facts but took place in 3013 and doesn&amp;#039;t spell out which religious faction on Truth was attacked. I tentatively think the more detailed timeline suggests 3013 and that 3020 was in error. [[User:Frabby|Frabby]] ([[User talk:Frabby|talk]]) 12:57, 13 September 2024 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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